Posts by cha ching

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Hello, fairly new, studying for around 7 months, just thought I would introduce myself.

by Conanthebeliever in

hello everyone, i hope you are all ok. .

my name is conan, i am 25, and from the uk.

i have some brain damage, so i apologise in advance if my syntax is off or i go a long way around explaining things.

cha ching

Hi Conan, welcome! Many people here have been in the same position as you are at one time or the other.

I am from the United States, "the land of the free", raised in "the truth", but you know what? I did not have access too the other side of the story... My husband, my kids and I worked hard for this org, building kingdom halls, assembly halls, going door too door, ALL that..

Then, my husband had to testify in a pedophile trial.... The WT did not like that one bit, and bam!!!! He was disfellowshipped, and all of our 20, 30, 40 year friends were gone just like that!

$$$ seems to be what they want all the time, took us a long time to see things for what they were... The internet allows you to look at all the "old light" (as they like to say) & how it changes very CONVENIENT LY, when something doesn't work out for them.

It's nice to have "all the answers" (like the JWs want you to believe) but it just may be even more satisfying to have the REAL answers. So many of us did not plan for retirement because of listening to the WT, and NOW face reality, the WT is no where in sight to help us.

Take care, let us know how it goes!

Cha Ching

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Another Galling WT Study

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

january 2016 watchtower (study edition).

be determined to “let your brotherly love continue”!.

this article was easy to read.

cha ching

Well said, NK, if you do not support sociopathic behavior, they will not have the power.... and who wants their life ruled by egotistical people?

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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

by elderess in

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only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

cha ching

Thank you for posting & giving more people hope. I also was the wife of an elder, had two great kids that were "in", one was married. We were always researchers, ready to stand up for what was right....BUT, I was so afraid for my kids... I wanted to save them so bad.... That was my nightmare..... Fortunately, all three did awaken... One of my sister's too... I remember how scary of a time that was.

The WT uses emotional blackmail, punishment, fear and all kinds of crap to keep people jailed in their mental priest that they like to call "mother". "She" is a cold hearted, child abusive woman.

You will LOVE living without her, enjoy!!!!!

Thanks for telling your story, it will give more people hope, it feels as if the dam is starting to bulge!!! Congratulations!

Cha Ching

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AustralianRoyal Commission is big news in oz

by sherrie11 in

the catholic church case study28 is currently a major news item here in australia.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/mar/01/george-pell-wasnt-much-interested-in-stories-of-abuse-by-priests-which-was-lucky-for-his-career&ved=0ahukewjjq_xlvqhlahxml6ykhdm0bdqqfghumac&usg=afqjcnfi_zb-5ibnlx2sw02siwh8i9s1ha&sig2=mmowhxclxmgu1wohyo7ofw.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/mar/02/was-george-pell-now-scourge-of-the-vatican-once-hoodwinked-by-all-around-him&ved=0ahukewjjq_xlvqhlahxml6ykhdm0bdqqqumiizac&usg=afqjcnfx3qszc7zlocm8aw9h6j8vga_0hg&sig2=xkexfa7lfa6qjnlazwh8da.

cha ching

Thanks, Umbertoecho, it is heartening to hear that FINALLY someone is not fooled by the WTBS BS!

Angus Stewart was well prepared for their shifty shenanigan wording and dodging of facts, he really exposed them for what they are.

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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

by Divergent in

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thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

consider three examples.

first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

cha ching

"Oh, but you are special, God opened up your heart and revealed them to you!

Less than one percent of the world knows "these refined/changed/manufactured) truths"."

Right!?! More WT BS.....

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Elders & Ex Elders, did knowing sins of congregation members change how you treated them?

by Wasanelder Once in

when you found out all the sins of fellow witnesses did it effect how you treated them?

it was shocking when i found out the range of bs these people did to each other.

i don't mean sexual abuse, i mean fraud, theft, infidelity and more.

cha ching

My husband was an elder, and though he did not tell me anything, I always had to deal with hesitancy or not wanting to do things with brother/sistr a, b, c, d, e, f, g....

There were sooooo many JC's in our hall, and some pretty crummy stuff going on... so, yes.... it made it harder for my husband to 'relax, and have a good time,' around people that he knew to be not so nice..

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Louisiana Judge Rules That Priests Don’t Have to Report Abuse if They Hear It During Confession

by ttdtt in

leave it to the deep south.. sad.. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/03/01/louisiana-judge-rules-that-priests-dont-have-to-report-abuse-if-they-hear-it-during-confession/?utm_source=silverpopmailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=friendlyatheist_030116utc050309_daily&utm_content=&spmailingid=50816439&spuserid=mty4mdi2oty3odkws0&spjobid=880120009&spreportid=odgwmtiwmda5s0.

cha ching

"But, on the stand today, Father Bayhi told a Judge he can’t even confirm whether someone even came to confession. That’s just how sacred it is. He added no one would trust priests if confessions were public."

He sounds so proud of himself.......

When is it going to become more important to protect the victim instead of the abuser?

Is religion really that more important? Hmm?

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Every Know Anyone Too "Weak" To Wake Up?

by freemindfade in

a jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.

a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.

(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).

cha ching

I have known people "out" for years... DF'd.... doing whatever, as if they are not JW's....

but always thinking it "was the truth" (in a weird way) in the back of their mind, and maybe going to come back "to be with their family".....

Emotional, social blackmail.... that is the hook.

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A Blog Post About Shunnig

by jacobm in

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http://sweetpotatopeachtree.com/?p=266

cha ching

This is a very sweet article, and it puts into words what many of us feel like.

"I found this quote from the July 2009 issue of Awake! (published by Jehovah’s Witnesses) noteworthy: “No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.”

Judah always has a smile for anyone and everyone. It’s the cutest thing to watch her, her eyes intent on learning. All I know is… I can’t imagine ever turning my back on my children.

Neither can I, Stephanie... and that is why we are all out, we have love... true love.

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JW Child Abuse Documentary

by cappytan in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulswb2avxvc.

let's set aside our differences for the moment and appreciate this excellent documentary cedars put together that should prove to be an invaluable tool in helping to expose the child abuse issues in the organization.. i was humbled to be able to help with this project on such an important subject, though my part in it was insignificant..

cha ching

This was absolutely amazing and very professional. Thank you to all involved for the hours it must have taken to produce this.

The most crucial pieces of evidence, quotes and experiences were put together in an uncluttered, clear and 'hit the nail on the head' way. Great questions were asked that have to make the people with a conscience have to think.

I enjoyed the music, great job, and the use of different scenery that was used to break up the different topics.... good photography. The reader, of the documents and scriptures is very good also, I give my hats off & thanks to him also.

The 3 countries, the estimates of how many pedophiles, this was all put together in a very logical, simple, fresh and powerful way.

Thank you Lloyd Evans for the great job! It will be historical.